The American Revolution (1776-?)

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michaelvine, I like this story. It's good stuff.

I find it disgusting Michaelvine. I see no goodness to Gay ideals. It is not right. Just like I see no goodness to the right to bear arms. It is no good. Why don't we have a Gay President of the USA? And would Bill Clinton be impeached if Monica Lewinsky was a guy instead? I find the whole idea of Gayness not Gayness but sadness to the highest degree. Where are the norms to society, and why do people break the norms? You consider there are no norms to society anymore right? Why not let children get married? Why not let gay children get married? It is the same reasoning you advocate that norms are no longer in society, when man and woman are not revered but despised together. Why not let cows and sheep get married, and have same sex marriages to them? They have rights right? Probably more than you and I because animals have a disadvantage and handicap that they can not speak our language so they should be given the same rights as humans.

How far do you take us as dummies in being decent people on earth? I am quite ashamed of you all.

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michaelvine, well said!

First and foremost, I would like to make certain that you are not mistakenly under the impression that what shame you would feel for me is, in any way, relevant to my self-concept or my way of knowing.  My heart will go on.

.....And your way of knowing what? My shame is that it is not only you I pity, it is a whole society gone mad with sexism, and the inability to recognize social norms .

Now, in addressing only your more coherent statements, I would like to remind you that while sheep and cattle are both quadrupedal ungulates, they could not be considered a part of the same animal species, unlike the whole of humankind.  So, for the sake of future debate, please try to keep your fruit well-organized.

....And so who are you to discriminate against them for not being human? Is it not the same tactic you take in supporting Gayism vs. Heteral norms? It was you who ate the fruit of knowledges apple, not I.

Second, but not secondarily, for most of human history children have been marrying.  It was not until only relatively recently in human history that teenagers have come to be considered “children” in social standing.  Before then, they married, they copulated, and they raised families.

....And how old were these children? 5 years?  And your feeling is that these children have a right to learn to be homosexual? and be taught that right?

Finally, you must eventually come to realize that for not a singular, solitary moment in time has heterosexuality ever been “normal”.  As far as we can possibly know, heterosexuality is only more common than homosexuality.

.....And where do you get this fact basis that heterosexuality is not normal? You came from your father and your mother, did you not? Your mother could not spermeate your mother. Maybe that is your problem you have not learned human health 101.

I leave you with a dictionary and a prayer to sort out the rest.

Prayer is all I need thank you. Prayer made the dictionary girl.

great coverage michael! very articulate and informative. As I read the comments, I find it ironic and disheartening that so few people know the history of our country. It was only 41 years ago that the US Supreme Court knocked down a Virginia statue barring another form of marriage - interracial ones. It was common at the time for people to make ludicrous and ignorant arguments against interracial marriage, including it being a communist plot to undermine our country and that it would destroy the white race. These assertions were not being made in Nazi Germany, but right here in the U.S. Indeed, it was Jerry Falwell in 1958 who made the comment about interracial marriage destroying the white race. Of course, the situation in the U.S. today reveals how ridiculous all of that squacking was. About 5% of marriages today are interracial or over 2.5 million and I'm pretty sure that the U.S. hasn't been taken over by Soviet communists and there certainly are still plenty of white folks around. My hope too is that soon we as a nation will move past petty moralizing about two consenting adults and tackle real issues as you mentioned in your article.

The issue of her sweet fanciful writing is about homosexuality, an issue and far cry away from interracial marriages. You talk about solving real issues dr....but if people can't solve simple living norms of behavior how do you expect real problems to be solved such as this..

www.geocities.com/hankmcintyre/911_report.html

Consenting adults means really nothing. Consenting adults; do bad things all the time, and you think its petty. I don't. I think its a tragedy. No dr. I am not bending over for you, or accept the idea that gayism has a place of creditability in my neighbor or society. It doesn't.

Is it acceptable to have sex in the street or in public? No it's not. Is it acceptable for me to walk into your restaurant where you are eating drop my draws and take a dump on the floor near you, while my friend is pimping you? Absolutely not. You say you have the freedom to do what you want, but when it comes up agianst erroding my beliefs this is where we run into troubles.

No, we run into troubles when you start defining freedoms by YOUR beliefs. I believe that you are a moron and deserve to be shot in the head, but that doesn't make it so. Unfortunately.

My belief  has just as much right to freedom than yours, and I never threaten you with violence. So what is your freedom ideals? Murder and killing is your only answer. I  am not a moron. I am a Christian.

Quite frankly, I have arrived at the notion that we needs must review: logic, analogy, and how
personals beliefs are not the same as universal truths. 

We should be able to resume our exchange after we've reached a mutually comparable command of these concepts.

The universal truth is God does not advocate gayism. If he did all the disciples would have been gay. I do not like gayism, as I don't like lying , or stealing, or killing people.

Michael,

Waste no more time on this one. A firm grasp of the language and a mind unsullied by fundamentalism are prerequisites for engagement in debate and argumentation at the level to which you are accustomed. Unfortunately, your opponent seeks to fight a battle of wit with mental weaponry roughly equivalent in firepower to a rusty spoon.

DJermano,

Your bigotry is unsettling. Your mutilation of the English language is terrifying. You despise me, and for the above reasons I am appalled by you. Let's call it even and agree to disagree, because if I were to actually begin refuting your drivel I might go as daft as you are trying to make you see reason.

Sincerely,

The Heretic

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