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DOJ Ends Illegal Domestic Wiretapping

by angryindian | January 18, 2007 at 09:04 am | 285 views | 6 comments | 0 recommendations
The Justice Department announced today that the National Security Agency's controversial warrantless surveillance program has been placed under the authority of a secret surveillance court, marking an abrupt change in approach by the Bush administration after more than a year of heated debate.

In a letter to the Senate Judiciary Committee, Attorney General Alberto R. Gonzales said that orders issued on Jan. 10 by an unidentified judge puts the NSA program under the authority of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, a secret panel that oversees most intelligence surveillance in the United States.

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joellerose

It was not illegal, and it was not domestic.  Other than that, the headline was truthful.

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angryindian

Do you have any verification of your statement?  Even teh mainstream news agencies do not dispute the illegality of the intelligence community in this matter.  Or is Senator Leahy simply misinterpeting the efforts of the White House.  The very same White House that continues to violate the U.S. Constitution when it suits them.

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joellerose

Both President Carter and President Clinton issued similar Executive Orders to the one President Bush issued regarding the eavesdropping on conversations between suspected foreign Al Qaeda and their domestic accomplices.  I have copies in my files if you can't find them on the internet.  As far as Senator Leahy is concerned, he was once dropped from the Senate Intelligence Committee for leaking national security secrets.  He has had no credibility with me since then.

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angryindian

Bringing up former presidents Carter and Clinton to excuse the Bush administration's clear violation of due process is not sufficient.  U.S. intelligence services have already been caught spying on domestic targets such as the Quakers, Food Not Bombs and individual activists like Cindy Sheehan, non-Arabic, non-Islamic American citizens on U.S. soil.  If, the Administration was following the law they would have had absolutely no problem with going through the proper channels.  Instead, the FBI, CIA  and  municipal law enforcement agencies have been having a field day investigating people who have no terrorist connections within the United States.  American alternative media outlets such as  Democracy Now as well as foreign media sources such as the BBC report boldly on these infractions while people like Dan Rather admit in England that U.S. news is decidely -one sided.  Americans won't accept that their rights are being violated in part because the U.S. major media refuses to cop onto it.

The fact is the Bush administration has lied to the American and global public about their internal intelligence probes into private citizens.  They told the public that it was only foreign communications but it was a ruse.  They did it under the radar and in the dark of night.  They could have and should been much more transparent, just like they demand of other nations.  The Bush business group has even gone so far as to privatize the intelligence gathering, like they privatize everything else that eventually has shown itself to fail.  To what effect?  With all the snooping and violation of individual privacy rights, not one verified terrorist has been identified among the targeted American activists or the organisations that work in solidarity with them.  However, White Supremacist and neo-Nazi organisations have been proven to support Al-Quida on American soil resulting in two successful sting operations.  Yet, such organisations have been officially removed from the federal terror watchlist while pacifist groups such as the Quakers remain on the list as a "credible terrorist threat."

The administration did go through proper channels because they knew full well that their actions were in violation of the constitutional rights of private American citizens and organisations that do not cloak their open dissent with American policy.  The neo-conservative drive to blame everything going amiss on previous democratic administrations is not only dishonest but deliberately misleading to any real understanding by a zombiefied general American populace.  Nancy Grace and Bill O'Reilly aside, no one on any side of the political spectrum is prepared to say that the United States is spinning out of control.  When governments begin spying on private citizens, it is a sure sign that the government and those who pull the puppet-strings fear their public.  Average people are suffering the effects of this administration's domestic as well as foreign policy and the establishment is apparently willing to ignore not only the law but its own self-promoted tradition of accountable government and security in one own privacy.

And while I understand your dismay with Sen. Leahy, as far as I am aware his actions did not lead to the deaths of more than 3000 American soldiers because he and his crew decided to stick up the Middle East.  And that's just the short list.

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joellerose

This is quite a diatribe. Just a few points. 1. Surveillance uncovered the Lackawanna Five. 2. Dan Rather is no longer with CBS because he used forged documents to smear President Bush. 3. Al Qaeda is usually spelled as shown.

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angryindian

Calling my disagreement with your opinion a "diatribe" doesn't alter the facts.  The Bush administration is guiilty of lying to the American public, Congress and the world community.  And bringing up the Lackawanna Six (you forgot to mention one) does not excuse this administration's habit of ignoring American privacy rights. 

In light of the abuses exposed at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo Bay, (or would you rather engage in explaining how the United States can violate its own professed and legal charter by employing torture.  Something else Bush the Younger told the world press American forces  would never, ever do) the strange case of Jose Padilla and scores of others people who have had their rights violated, any investigation undertaken by the U.S. is logically suspect.  Even in the case you raised, if these were terrorists, they were a day late and a dollar short:

 

From Wikipedia

"Investigators found a rifle, a telescopic sight, and a cassette tape in Al-Bakri's house. Investigators say that when played, the tape "asks Allah to give Jews and their enablers (U.S.) a black day."

 Like the rag-tag group "caught" in Florida that had nothing but big talk and a lot of swagger, these busts mean little.  To date, the administration has not proven to government investigators or the the American public that these particular measures have made any of us safer.  Selling scare tactics is not the same as empirically validating an actual terrorist threat.

 

Dan Rather said what he said BEFORE he was asked to leave CBS.  Again, from Wikipedia:

 "In June 2006, reports surfaced that CBS News would most likely not renew Rather's contract.[5] According to a Washington Post article, sources from CBS said that executives at the network decided "there is no future role for Rather..."  The "smearing" you mention, aside from the right-wing punditry spreading that bile, has never been verified outside of non-republican circles.  And there is no need to forge documents to challenge the reputation of Geroge W. Bush.  He can do that quite well all by himself.

As far as the parting "Al Quida" shot, in Arabia the translation can range between several various spellings.  No particular spelling is considered entirely incorrect.  Except in the West where it is insisted upon that the spelling match your choice.   Why you chose to pay more attention to that instead of the fact that U.S. Constitutional liberties are being eroded, the intended focus of this thread, before our very eyes escapes me.  It has absolutely nothing to do with the issue at hand. 

 


 

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